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Dan Abrams Rips Off The Curtain

by nascardem, Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:12:00 PM EST

Dan Abrams went after the MSM and Washington pundits tonight for ignoring Hillary Clinton's win in Florida. He also pointed out that the polls for the biggest states coming up on Tuesday show Hillary leading by healthy leads. He pointed out that the media is obsessed with its dislike of Hillary Clinton.

He posted an interesting chartL: more people voted in Florida than in Iowa, NH, Nevada and SC combined, yet the media continues to focus on Obama. The media can't get enough of the Obama story, and is promoting Obama. In short, Obama is the media darling, and Obama is getting a free pass from the press.

Unbelievable - someone ripping off the curtain of the press bias against Hillary Clinton.

Tags: Dan Abrams, Hillary Clinton (all tags)

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Way to go Abrams! (2.00 / 1)

by lonnette33 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:14:33 PM EST

Re: Dan Abrams Rips Off The Curtain (none / 0)

Well its about time someone stood up for Hillary in the MSM.

Restore America's Strength.

by RJEvans on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:16:50 PM EST

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I missed it, but maybe they'll put a clip up on their website. Dan Abrams is the only person who even attempts to be fair on MSNBC.

by Tove on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:22:00 PM EST

Dan has been (none / 0)

much more even than the rest of the MSNBC hosts; Keith included.

by Coldblue on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:23:55 PM EST

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bravo to adrams. hope there's a clip. this sounds like something i'd want to watch. always liked him ... even if he was a tad, well, interesting at times.

by toonsterwu on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:25:46 PM EST

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I caught Chris Matthews and Andrea Mitchell talking about how great Hillary Clinton was on Matthews' show last night. Did anyone see her appearance?

by LakersFan on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:33:20 PM EST

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no, she was on when the results were coming in and she was asked questions by keith and chris; andrea and chris were pleased that hillary said that she controls the campaign. or in other words, repudiating bill

by American1989 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:52:52 PM EST
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Re: Dan Abrams Rips Off The Curtain (none / 0)

Keith Olberman has lost credibility in my opinion.

His punching bag OReilly as far as I know atleast
doesnt show bias among republican candidates.

by BlueSea on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:46:54 PM EST

You know, he was never all that credible (none / 0)

I'm one of the biggest Bush-haters in the world, but Keith has hit him unfairly plenty of times. He has his favorites and his hates, and he doesn't keep a particularly open mind.

OTOH, he is brilliant with the film clips and not so bad with the quips, either. A really, really smart and funny guy and a top-notch entertainer, just not so reliable as a news source.

by Trickster on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:55:13 PM EST
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He has made Bill O'Reilly's life miserable (none / 0)

You gotta love 'im for that. . . . :)

by Trickster on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:40:53 AM EST
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Re: Dan Abrams Rips Off The Curtain (none / 0)

yeah, he's a real disappointment. really smart, funny, well spoken guy. we all hate O'Reilly for emotional hate-mongering, but really KO does the same, albeit with more legit targets. But rants and raves about the worse/worser/worsest....blah blah is an insult to the intelligence -- do people really tune in for non stop peronsal insults? and, more power to O'Reilly, he does allow people with opposing points of view on: KO is just people who agree with him (generally -- I admit I don't watch him or any of these other shows all that much).

by CalDem on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:02:21 PM EST
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Re: Dan Abrams Rips Off The Curtain (none / 0)

if he thinks so, then as the head of MSNBC, he should tell his people to focus on the FL win; he should also tell Matthews to shut up.

by American1989 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:47:53 PM EST

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Dan Abrams is not the head of MSNBC.

by BlueSea on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:50:34 PM EST

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Abrams was defending Clinton even back in the post-Iowa days. He had a segment on his show where he talked about how pissed he was that people were writing her off.

That's why I say there is no overwhelming MSNBC bias, just individual commentors (mostly Matthews and Carlson) who lean towards Obama. After all, this guy was general manager of MSNBC until just recently.

by animated on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:00:45 PM EST

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I stand corrected. I didnt know that Dan Abrams
was managing MSNBC.

by BlueSea on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:05:06 PM EST

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But MSNBC as a network lost a lot viewers with their slant.

Even Fox was showing both Republican and Democratic FL coverage with % of votes at the bottom of the screen.

by BlueSea on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:09:02 PM EST

I respect Abrams for going against (none / 0)

most of his network, but I NEVER EVER EVEN ONCE heard anyone complain about the media annointing Hillary as the "inevitable" candidate from January until the fall of '07.

by highgrade on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:12:25 PM EST

Re: I respect Abrams for going against (none / 0)

It was all part of the little drama they wrote for their entertainment. The tale of the fall of the mighty unstoppable Hillary Clinton juggernaut is not as compelling if she is just one candidate in a crowded field. So while being careful not to say anything good about her that they couldn't later spin into a bad thing, they built up her "inevitability".

Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.

by itsthemedia on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:32:35 AM EST
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Abrams spot tonight was a load of crap (none / 0)

Totally ignored all the new polls, the fact that all the ones he cited were pre-SC and pre-Kennedy. Also skipped over all the context of Florida. Sure, the media doesn't love Clinton, but that doesn't change those objective numbers. Fulls of shit.

better luck next universe

by thenew on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:17:04 PM EST

nope you're wrong (2.00 / 1)

he did poll averages, he was very clear about Florida and you are wrong about the objective numbers.

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:33:00 PM EST
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Re: nope you're wrong (none / 0)

he did all poll averages from all pre-SC polls, without mentioning that fact. He also did not mention new polls in New York, Connecticut, California, or National (gallup). He was very clear about Florida only in the sense that he did not explain or mention the entire reason for the state being stripped of its delegates, that all candidates new this ahead of time, and that no candidate was forced to sign a pledge not to campaign there, but that all did because they did not want to offend voters in Iowa and New Hampshire.

better luck next universe

by thenew on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:46:31 PM EST
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Re: nope you're wrong (none / 0)

Hey, be nice. You don't want to be banned.

by OrangeFur on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 01:49:13 AM EST
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The question is where is the line between hard news and commentary. If Bill O'Reilly says he favors a certain candidate you wouldn't agree with him but you probably wouldn't fault him for it.

So I don't see a problem with Matthews being pro-Obama or Abrams being pro-Clinton. Maybe the problem is that they are walking the line of being somewhat objective which makes viewers mad when they show some bias.

by animated on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:26:44 PM EST

Abrams is not pro-Clinton he is objective (2.00 / 1)

he has criticized and praised both candidates equally. The problem with someone like Matthews is that he pretends to be objective but twists everything to Obama's advantage. He is a Clinton hater and he can't be honest about her of Obama.

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:38:56 PM EST
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Re: Abrams is not pro-Clinton he is objective (none / 0)

The question is where do you draw the line. Is there a place for a pro-Clinton or pro-Obama commentator? I think the answer is yes, I just think they should be more overt about their preferences.

by animated on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:50:17 PM EST
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Re: Abrams is not pro-Clinton he is objective (none / 0)

The media very rarely admits that they play any role in shaping our discourse.

The canard about Al Gore saying he invented the Internet was not created in some GOP opposition research boiler room, it was cooked up at the New York Times and repeated ad naseum for months on every news outlet in the country. About seven years after the fact, when Gore was racking up an Oscar and a Nobel Prize, some news people finally let us know that he never actually said that. But magically, the role of the media in creating and spreading this and other lies about Gore has been disappeared! GOP operatives did it, or political enemies of Mr. Gore. Surely not the NYT!

Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.

by itsthemedia on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:44:45 AM EST
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Re: Abrams is not pro-Clinton he is objective (none / 0)

I draw the line at lying. Be pro-Obama, be honest about it but don't lie for him and don't create shit about Clinton.

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 04:57:04 AM EST
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Well I predict the free media ride will end for Mr. Obama the moment the Dem nomination seems clear. Either Clinton has it, and he is yesterday's news, or Obama has it, and suddenly he begins to seem not so wonderful in comparison to Saint McCain.

All I can say is I hope the Obama campaign is ready to climb off the media gravy train. That first step is a doozy!

Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.

by itsthemedia on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:49:41 AM EST

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